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    Fauzia Faizi confirms that the Mirza family is full of incest and rapists


    The Mirza family are a group of sick people. MGA’s son, the famous Musleh Maud preyed on boys and girls. The British Government allowed him to do whatever he wanted.  A few years ago, Fauzia Faizi did an interview wherein she described the inner workings of the Mirza family, Samina Khan, a German politician also weighed in. Fauzia Faizi also discussed how Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad was raping his own daughter and etc. Fauzia Faizi is the great grand daughter of a companion of MGA, Dr. Syed Abdus Sattar Shah. She is also the niece of Abd u Rehman Khadim (Author of Ahmadiyya Pocket Book). 

    The family of Fauzia Faizi
    Her father was Professor Faizi (Faiz-ur-Rehman), he taught at T.I. College in Rabwah, Pakistan for many years. He seems to be related Maulvi Barkat Ali. Her father had 3 brothers and 3 sisters, 7 in total. On her mom’s side she is directly and closely related to Mirza Tahir Ahmad.  Her mom (Seema) was the eldest daughter of to Syed Wali Ullah, who was a son Dr. Syed Abdus Sattar Shah. Seema had 6 siblings, 5 sisters in total and 2 brothers. Fauzia Faizi’s uncle was Malik Aziz-ur-Rehman.

    When Syeda Maryam died in 1944
    Fauzia Faizi was told that her aunty, Syeda Maryam was physically and mentally tortured by the Khalifa. They said that she died of depression, however, there were other reasons. As soon as she died, the Khalifa, Mirza Basheer-uddin Mahmud Ahmad, who was 55 years old at the time, began frequenting the house of Fauzia Faizi’s mother. Fauzia Faizi’s mother was barely 14 years old at the time. The Khalifa even proposed marriage with her. However, Fauzia Faizi’s grandmother said NO, and was very upset by this proposal.

    The Khalifa forces Fauzia Faizi’s mother to marry Professor Faizi
    Fauzia Faizi’s mother was forcibly married to Professor Faizi, per the order of the Khalifa.



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    Dr. Abdus Salam liked white women, alcohol and a busy British lifestyle



    The life of Dr. Salam is not properly explained by Ahmadiyya sources. In this essay, we will present the proper data and leave it to the readers to draw their own conclusions. However, you will notice that during the life of Dr. Salam, he never allowed anyone to mention his second wife (girlfriend) and those circumstances (see the Al-Nahl of 1997, which has 200+ pages of data on Dr. Salam, however, they barely mention his second wife and those 2 amazing kids, see page 200). We (the writers at this blog) don’t see his relationships as a meaning of shame or anything, we are just pointing out that Dr. Dame Louise Napier Johnson, who per British law, was never his wife, instead a life-long girlfriend, was never given any acknowledgement by the Ahmadiyya Movement. We all know that Dr. Salaam eloped with Dr. Johnson in 1968…they were not married in any ceremony. Dr. Salaam didn’t care about any islamic laws, he was above the laws in Ahmadiyya and was never even questioned. However, a few years later, he had an ahmadi-mullah read the Nikkah. His son was born in 1974 (Umar) and a daughter was born in 1982 (Saeeda). Both of these children are shunned by the Ahmadiyya Movement. Dr. Salaam had allegiance to his cult-like religion and he respected the religion of his father, he thus never challenged anything in Ahmadiyya, he also believed that his intelligence was based on a revelation of MGA, in fact, in 1979 at the Jalsa in Rabwah, Salam claimed that it was the prayers of MGA which helped him become a nobel winner. IMHO, he was an Atheist, however, out of respect for his family, he supported Ahmadiyya as much as he could. However, he never had the courage to attempt to solve the dogmatic irregularities of the Ahmadiyya religion, like Yus Asaf and the eclipses. Salam’s life lasted over these years, born-January 1926, died on 21 November 1996. He was born in British-India, he chose to become a Pakistani after 1947, however, he began to hate Pakistan in 1953, right after the 1953 anti-Ahmadiyya riots. He moved out of Pakistan in and began working at Cambridge and joined St John’s College, and took a position as a professor of mathematics, this was in the UK of course. By 1964, when Ahmadi’s were thriving in Pakistan, he decided to help the country of Italy, which is unethical, since Mussolini supported Hitler in WW-2. Nevertheless, per the order of his Khalifa, he worked for Pakistan and Italy simultaneously and as an esteemed College Professor at Cambridge. However, after Ahmadi’s were declared Non-Muslim in 1974, he left his job with the Pakistani government and began to focus on his school of Physics in Trieste, Italy. Oct 1974 to late 1978 seems to be a dead era in his career. In 1979, he won the Nobel Prize in Physics.  In 1979, the President of Pakistan and head military dictator, Zia ul Haq invited Dr. Salaam to Pakistan and gave him full presidential treatment, they asked him to build a center of Physics, he was wined and dined, nevertheless, he still left Pakistan in 1980 and continued to work for Italy. Eventually, he died in 1996 of a rare brain disease wherein he had become a mute and at the house of his 2nd wife. Polygamy in the UK was illegal, hence, his second wife, Dr. Johnson was more like a lifelong girlfriend in British law. Abdus Salaam’s son, Ahmad Salaam, recently gave an interview herein wherein he discusses his father.

    Singh, Jagjit.  Abdus Salam (1992).

    Ghani, Abdul (1982). “Science Advisor to the President (1960–1974)”. Abdus Salam: a Nobel laureate from a Muslim country : a biographical sketch.

    abdus-salam-bio–Cosmic Anger, Fraser, Gordon.  (2008).  Free download

    Dombey, Norman.  “Abdus Salam: A Reappraisal” (2011)

    Mujahid, Kamran.  “The inspiring life of Abdus Salam” (2013)

    Al-nahl, an Ahmadiyya magazine, 1997 tribute to Dr. Salam:
    Al-Nahl-1997-v008-No_04 – Prof Muhammad Abdus Salam Issue

    There are a few bios on Abdus Salaam.  Pervez Hoodboy has also spoke on Dr. Salaam here.  

    According to his colleague, Dr. Weinberger, Dr. Salam was fond of “Scotch” whiskey





    https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/pdf/10.1098/rsbm.1998.0025–“Abdus Salam” by Kibble (1998)

    Abdus Salam


    His father was an educational official employed with the British Government
    Abdus Salam was born  as a citizen of British-India to Chaudhry Muhammad Hussain and Hajira Hussain, into a Punjabi family that was part of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam. In terms of caste-affiliation, they were Jats of Rajput descent from Jhang on his father’s side while his mother was a Kakazai from Gurdaspur.[22][23][24] His grandfather, Gul Muhammad, was a religious scholar as well as a physician[7] while his father was an education officer in the Department of Education of Punjab State in a poor farming district.  It is unclear how any of these people became Ahmadi’s, they are not tied to any of the early converts to Ahmadiyya.

    Abdus Salam was born in Santokdas in the District of Sahiwal, this is 100 kilometers from modern day Jhang, Pakistan. Abdus Salam’s mother and her family were from Santokdas, his maternal grandfather was working, he also seemed to be an employee of the British government, it in unclear whether he was an Ahmadi or not. The reason that Abdus Salam was born in Santokdas instead of Jhang was because it was some type of cultural custom for their family that when a child is born, he is born in the family home of the woman, instead of the man, most likely because child birth requires great care and etc.  Abdus Salam’s only sister Hamida was also born in Santokdas, however, his additional 6 siblings (boys) were all born in Jhang, British Indian (See Kibble).  Abdus Salam was thus the eldest in a family of 8 children, however, he did have a half sister from his fathers first marriage which makes a total of 9 siblings.

    By age 5, it was obvious that Abdus Salam was special.

    His parents forced his siblings to serve him food and to clean his clothes and etc. Abdus Salam never worked any manual labor, nor did he play any sports. By today’s standards, he was a privileged kid.

    At age 14, Salam scored the highest marks ever recorded for the matriculation (entrance) examination at the Punjab University (See Fraser). There was a huge celebration in the city of Jhang as Salam’s scores were reported to the entire city.

    Abdus Salam graduates with a B.A. in Mathematics from Government College University, Lahore. While in Lahore, Abdus Salam went on to attend the graduate school of Government College University.[29]


    He received his MA in Mathematics from the Government College University in 1946.[21] That same year, he was awarded a scholarship to St John’s College, Cambridge, where he completed a BA degree with Double First-Class Honours in Mathematics and Physics in 1949. This was a special Punjab Government scholarship to Cambridge program. Salam was really lucky, the head of the Punjab government has been collecting money to help in Allied war effort. The War ended in roughly 1945, there was lots of money that was left over.  150,000 rupees were left over (see Kibble), the head of the Punjab government agreed to allocate this money to the sons of poor farmers to study abroad. However, Salam was not the son of a farmer. Somehow, by buying some land, Salam’s father had qualified to receive the scholarship. On top of that, some other student had unexpectedly dropped out of Cambridge, thus leaving a seat open. The scholarship was totally cancelled the next year, Salam seems to have been the only beneficiary.

    Dr. Salam meets Zafrullah Khan in 1946 in Liverpool
    Co-incidentally, they both met as Dr. Salaam had arrived in the UK for higher studies.  They both scammed and schemed on behalf of Ahmadiyya their entire life.  However, it is important to note that Dr. Salaam never volunteered for Ahmadiyya and never wrote any articles in support of any Ahmadiyya theory.  He was silent on Jesus in India, the eclipses and many other scientific phenomenon.

    1949, August 19th, Salam marries his first cousin
    This topic is barely covered by all sources. In this era, Dr. Salam left home for the first time ever, in other words, he left his country, which was British-India, but, by 1947 it was the newly formed country, Pakistan. Salam was back and forth from the UK and Pakistan quite a bit in this era. (see al-Nahl). Salam deeply respected his father and always obeyed him. When he graduated from GC in 1946, he had never gone to the cinema because his father had forbidden him to do so. He was also scolded by his father for playing chess after which he never played the game. He used to say that he owed his success to his father’s prayers.

    Dr. Salam married his cousin, Amtul Hafeez (she died in 2007), she was the sister of Col. G.M. Iqbal, 
    They had 4 children.  In order of their ages:
    Daughter–Dr. Aziza Rahman (born in June of 1950, in Multan), she married Dr. Hameed ur Rehman in the L.A. area
    Daughter—Asifa (Born November 1954 in London)
    Daughter–Bushra Salam Bajwa (Born in November of 1956 in Pakistan)
    Son—-Ahmad Salam (Born in 1960, in the UK)(check his interview here)

    Aziza has a PhD in biochemistry, while Ahmad has a degree in Finance and works for a Kuwaiti company from London as an investment banker. All three daughters are housewives.

    1951 to 1953
    Salam lived in isolation, his wife and daughter lived in Multan, Salam lived in Lahore.  In the future, he would continue to live like this.  He spent the summers of 1952 and 1953 in London.
    Salam completed his PhD thesis in 1951: Developments in quantum theory of fields. This was a rather brilliant work: in addition to making his name as a physicist, it resulted in him winning a share of the highly prestigious Adams Prize for mathematical sciences in 1956

    In 1953, Dr. Salam moved to Cambridge, with his wife and young daughter Aziza
    See Al-Nahl of 1997.

    Salam was in love with a girl named Urmilla at the Govt College Lahore
    It seems that Dr. Salam was already cheating on his new wife.  See Cosmic Anger.

    January of 1954
    Abdus Salaam turned his back on Pakistan after the 1953 riots on Ahmadiyya

    Is Abdus Salaam a traitor to Pakistan?  Well, in this book, on pages 26-31.  It is stated that Dr. Salaam purposely and willfully was upset with Pakistan and moved away.  He then helped the UK and other countries develop educational programs in terms of physics.

    This was the first time that Dr. Salaam turned his back on his country, however, it wasn’t the last.  Singh tells us that Salaam was personally threatened, and the riots were about his close friend, Zafrullah Khan, so Salaam was now eager to leave his people in Pakistan, and he fled to the UK and began giving up all of his islamic ideals on life (see pages 28-29, Singh).

    Dr. Salam neglected all 6 of his children
    Dr. Salam was so busy being an ambassador for Ahmadiyya, that he never truly enjoyed his life.  He never took a real vacation, nor did he even spend substantial time with his children.  Ahmad Salam stated in an interview for a documentary being made on Salam that he saw so little of his father that when he was six or seven years old he would ask his mother if he could bring his bedding into Salam’s bedroom and put it on the floor just to be close to him. “I wanted to be with him as much as possible.”[27] Two of his daughters have given us valuable glimpses of his family life and his work habits. They write:[28]

    “”””His travels took him all over the world Thus, his work left him little time for the family life. … He was quite strict at home, especially where our studies were concerned. He would bring us each workbooks and before going to his college he would set us certain pages that we had to do. Whenever he returned from an overseas trip, he would call us into his room and check on our grades and progress. He encouraged us and gave us confidence by constantly reminding us of one of his favorite sayings, “Do your best and leave the rest to Allah.”…
    He himself never stopped working…. My father maintained his meticulous work habits in an unflagging routine punctuated by “catnaps” and endless supplies of sweets and hot tea…He would go to bed around eight or nine o’ clock in the evening, and arise a very few hours later to work in the silent hours before dawn when his level of concentration and creativity would perhaps reach its peak, sustained by a thermos of hot, sweet tea and some snacks that we would place by his bedside before sleeping.””””

    Dr. Salam’s nephew, Nasir Iqbal, son of the late Col. G.M. Iqbal
    He was with Dr. Salam in his final years in Italy and spent lots of time with Dr. Salam. He gave lots of details about Dr. Salam’s lonely life. His nephew Nasir Iqbal, was employed at ICTP for some time also, call it nepotism.

    Salam adjusted to life in the UK with his family.

    In 1957, he was invited to take a chair at Imperial College, London, and he and Paul Matthews went on to set up the Theoretical Physics Department at Imperial College.[42] As time passed, this department became one of the prestigious research departments that included well known physicists such as Steven WeinbergTom KibbleGerald GuralnikC. R. HagenRiazuddin, and John Ward. Punjab University conferred Salam with an Honorary doctorate for his contribution in Particle physics.[43] The same year with help from his mentor, Salam launched a scholarship programme for his students in Pakistan. Salam retained strong links with Pakistan, and visited his country from time to time.[44]

    At Cambridge and Imperial College he formed a group of theoretical physicists, the majority of whom were his Pakistani students. At age 33, Salam became one of the youngest persons to be elected a Fellow of the Royal Society (FRS) in 1959.[7][7] Salam took a fellowship at the Princeton University in 1959, where he met with J. Robert Oppenheimer[45] and to whom he presented his research work on neutrinos.[46] Oppenheimer and Salam discussed the foundation of electrodynamics, problems and their solution.[47] His dedicated personal assistant was Jean Bouckley.

    Abdus Salam returned to Pakistan in 1960 to take charge of a government post that was given to him by President Field Marshal Ayub Khan. From her independence, Pakistan has never had a coherent science policy, and the total expenditure on research and development represent ~1.0% of Pakistan’s GDP.[61] Even the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) headquarters was located in a small room, and less than 10 scientists were working on fundamental concepts of physics.[62] Abdus Salam replaced Salimuzzaman Siddiqui as Science Advisor, became first Member (technical) of Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission. Abdus Salam expanded the web of physics research and development in Pakistan by sending more than 500 scientists abroad.[63]

    In September 1961, Abdus Salam approached President Ayub Khan to set up the country’s first national space agency.[64] On 16 September 1961, through an executive order, Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission was established, in which Abdus Salam served as the first director.[64] Before 1960, very little work on scientific development was done, and scientific activities in Pakistan were almost diminished. Abdus Salam called Ishfaq Ahmad, a nuclear physicist, who had left the country for Switzerland where he joined CERN, to Pakistan. With the support of Abdus Salam, PAEC established PAEC Lahore Center-6, with Ishfaq Ahmad as its first director.[65]

    In 1962, Salam took his wife and parents to Mecca to perform Umrah, the small pilgrimage. Involving a single lap of the Ka’aba, this can be done at any time of the year, and involves much less organization and effort than the elaborate full pilgrimage, the Hajj. The experience nevertheless impressed him deeply. Every Muslim is supposed to make the full Haj once: making Umrah does not absolve a believer from the responsibility of making the full pilgrimage. But it was to be Salam’s only trip to Saudi Arabia.

    In the same year, he met a very young Physics student, Louise Dame NapierJohnson.  Attending an antinuclear proliferation meeting in London in 1962, Salam had met Louise Johnson, then a physics undergraduate at University College London (UCL), who was helping with the meeting’s
    administration. It was what the French call un coup de foudre, an emotional lightning strike, such as Salam had not experienced since seeing the inaccessible Urmilla at Government College, Lahore, some twenty years before.  Louise was only 20 years old, and Salam was 36.

    In 1964, Salam founded the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (ICTP), Trieste, in the North-East of Italy and served as its director until 1993.[97]
    Salam never intended to help Pakistan develop any international science center or nuclear weapons.  However, he played games and acted like he was interested.  His Khalifa most likely controlled Salam, and thus he never helped Pakistan do anything.

    His father, Chaudhry Mohammad Hussain dies in Karachi and is buried in a special area of Bahishti Maqbara, in Rabwah, Pakistan.

    Dr. Salaam had a change of heart, and this is the most peaceful era of Ahmadis in Pakistan.  In 1958, he was named as the Chief Scientific Advisor to the President, Ayub Khan (see Singh, pages 96-97).  Abdus Salaam was thus able to get lots of Ahmadis hired into the government and etc. This was the era when Ahmadis were Economic Advisors, military generals, and held disproportionate employment with the government. Dr. Salaam wanted to start an international physics center, however, there was a shortage of funds and no projects could ever be funded.  Dr. Salam was a workaholic, he seems to have been working 3 jobs simultaneously in this era.  From 1965 onwards, Dr. Salam was back and forth from Italy to the UK.

    His marriage to Louise Johnson
    Fraser, “Cosmic Anger”, page 230-231

    “Salam and Louise Johnson were married in a Muslim wedding in London in 1968.  An unlikely witness was Paul Mathews, Salam’s long-time research partner  and professor at Imperial. 36.  In Islamic terms, his new relationship was a marriage, so Salam was following the edicts of a religion that expressly forbids fornication. 37.  but on the other hand it was sufficiently distant from a union that had taken place between cousins in Pakistan as not to cause alarm.  The freedom and support that Salam’s unorthodox lifestyle required was freely given on all sides, and the unconventional arrangement worked.  By deft planning and attention to detail, and by supreme forbearance by those involved, Salam was able to manage his unconventional matrimonial affairs, shuttling between Trieste, London and Oxford.  Salam was discreet about all of this, but on the other hand did not keep it secret.  His ‘second family’ became regular summer visitors at Trieste.”
    36—Salam would have preferred 2 Muslim witnesses to his new marriage, and this was duly rectified in a second marriage ceremony in 1973.

    Dr. Salam had both of his wives living less than a mile apart in 1990–1996 era.

    Dr. Salam married Dr. Napier illegally
    British law does not allow for polygamy. Hence, Dr. Salam was cheating on his wife of almost 15 + years and having an affair with Dr. Napier. Furthermore, in 1968, Dr. Salam’s eldest daughter was 18 years old, whereas Dr. Salam’s girlfriend was just 26. We are unsure if they ever met in life. Sources tell us that in 1973, a proper nikkah ceremony was held, however, the Ahmadiyya movement has never confirmed this. We know that Dr. Salam was best friends with Zafrullah Khan and a VIP at the London Mosque, hence, anything could be done for him.


    Another biography: Dr. Abdus Salam, by Jagjit Singh. Says, he admired Muhammad Iqbal, the poet philosopher.

    Singh was silent on Dr. Salaam’s wife, Professor Dame Louise Napier Johnson.

    This is the proof that this book was purposely biased.  We all know that Dr. Salaam eloped with Dr. Johnson in 1968…they were not married in any ceremony.  Dr. Salaam didn’t care about any islamic laws, he was above the laws in Ahmadiyya and was never even questioned.  However, a few years later, he had an ahmadi-mullah read the Nikkah.  His son was born in 1974 (Umar) and a daughter was born in 1982 (Saeeda).  Both of these children are shunned by the Ahmadiyya Movement.

    How did Dr. Salam meet Dr. Napier?
    Singh tells us that in 1968 they seem to have eloped together. In 1968, Salam was living in the Uk and working at the Imperial College.  Salam was also back and forth to Pakistan in these days since he worked as Scientific advisor to Ayub Khan. Dr. Napier finished her studies in 1965, After her PhD, she moved to the laboratory of Frederic M. Richards at Yale University for postdoctoral research in 1966. At Yale she worked as part of a team with Frederic M. Richardsand Hal Wyckoff on the crystal structure of another enzyme, ribonuclease, which was solved shortly after she left: the fourth protein structure solved.[7]  Dr. Napier transferred to the Royal Institution for postgraduate research, she spent a year at Yale and was working as Departmental Demonstrator in the Department of Zoology, University of Oxford.  She became faculty in 1973.  Dr. Salam seems to have been very busy in these days, since his first family was also in the same geographic area, i.e. London.  When Dr. Salam went to pickup his Nobel prize, he had both of his wives with him and wearing a full burka.  Swedish officials seated them in different parts of the auditorium while the King decorated their husband.  Dr. Salam was 42 and Dr. Napier was 28 years old.

    Dr. Salam and Dr. Napier had 2 children
    They had two children: a son born in 1974(Umar Salam) and a daughter born in 1982 (Syeda Hajira). Johnson’s husband died in 1996. She died on 25 September 2012 in Cambridge, England.[17][5][18] Their whereabouts are unknown.  Their religion is unknown.  Iftikhar Ahmed, a physicist who worked very closely with Salam, recalled them as being “madly in love – it was always ‘my darling’ this, and ‘my darling’ that … I never saw him happier than when he was with Louise”.

    Umar Salam
    Umar has completed his Ph.D. in mathematics from Cambridge. I remember that it was during a summer of the mid 1980s, that Salam asked me to teach Urdu to Umar. I did so for a few days. When I asked Umar if he was really interested in learning Urdu, Umar said that he was doing it only because his father wanted him to learn Urdu. Interestingly, one day Salam checked the words I had taught him and their transliteration. (this was taken from here: http://www.mujahidkamran.com/articles.php?id=44, see footnote number 31).  (Not sure who this person was who was teaching Dr. Salam’s son Urdu).

    Umar Salam and Stephen Hawkings
    It seems that they both worked together at the University of Cambridge.  See here: https://realnoevremya.com/articles/2287-stephen-hawking-from-newtons-department-to-einsteins-rostrum

    Singh is wrong on Ahmadiyya persecution and the 1974 NA
    Singh writes that after legislation was passed, violence vs. Ahmadis broke out..that is an open lie.  He was most likely lied to by Ahmadi-mullahs or other Ahmadis who are fond of lying about their cult-like non-profit business.    In fact, after Oct-7th-1974, the data proves that violence vs. Ahmadis was dead for 4 years until late 1978, even then, these isolated cases are not honest, these people may have been killed in family disputes, not Ahmadiyya related issues. In fact, uptil Ord-XX and 1984 there was 10-years of relative peace for Ahmadi’s in Pakistan.


    Salaam turns his back on Pakistan again in Sep-1974
    Ahmadis were declared non-Muslim in Sep-1974, and Dr. Salaam resigned immediately. Salaam grew a beard and seems to have changed his lifestyle….or that was the outward behavior.

    Oct–1974 to Oct 1979
    This seems to be a dead era in the life of Dr. Salam.

    When he won the Nobel Prize in roughly Oct 1979
    Singh lies to us and claims that Abdus Salaam wasn’t fond of alcohol. He claims that he Salaam only drank grape juice while his colleagues drank wine. However, that is a lie…his colleagues tell us different.

    The Ahmadi press mentions Salam
    “I am filled with praise and glory to that holy Being Who accepted regular and continuous prayers of my present Imam, my parents and my friends of the Jamaat, thereby gladdening the hearts in the Islamic world and Pakistan”. (Qadiani newspaper Al-Fazl, Rabwah, Dated December 31, 1979).

    Q: What do you have to say about the ‘Science Foundation’ established by Islamic Conference?

    A: “A step in the right direction, I am indeed happy. But my original proposal was better than the present decision. I had prevailed upon Mr. Bhutto in 1974 to establish a Foundation with a capital of one billion dollars and the Summit Conference had agreed upon it, but nothing happened after that. Then in 1981, General Zia-ul-Haq agreed to raise this issue in the Summit at Taif. The ‘Foundation’ was established but the proposed capital was reduced to only 50 million dollars. I have now learnt that the actual amount received so far by the ‘Foundation’ is only 6 million dollars. You would agree with me that Muslim governments can give more than that”. (Daily ‘Al-Fazl’, Rabwah, Oct. 8,1984).

    Zia invites Dr. Salaam to Pakistan From December 15th–23rd of 1979, after he wins the Nobel
    After winning the nobel prize, with other scientists, Zia-ul-Haq wooed him to come back to Pakistan and possibly help Pakistan fight off the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and to . Dr. Salaam didn’t fly on commercial aircraft, instead, he flew on the Presidents aircraft (see pages 96-97, Singh). Salam arrived at the Karachi airport on 12-15-1979 (See Al-Nahl of 1997, page 112), only his Pakistani wife was with him, his British wife was not. On 12-16-79 he visited his sister in Multan. He then flew to Sargodha (in the afternoon)(which is barely 20 miles from Rabwah), he was received at the Pakistani Air Force base in Sarghoda, he was received by Mirza Tahir Ahmad and Mirza Khurshid Ahmad. They then drove to Rabwah under police escort. Dr. Salam attended the Ahmadiyya Jalsa in Rabwah in December of 1979 under govt. escort. On 12-18-1979, he flew from Rabwah to Islamabad via military helicopter. He was received by military and civilian government leaders and was allowed to spend the day and night at “Sindh house”. He met Zia ul Haq on that day also(See Al-Nahl of 1997, pages 112-113). Zia ul Haq then allowed Dr. Salam to read his prayers separately and called him a better Muslim than himself. On 12-19-1979, Sala visited PINSTECH, Major General Shafiq was also there.  On 12-20-1979, Zia gave Salam the country’s highest civilian honour, Nishan-e-Imtiaz, some Ahmadi’s were also there and vouched for all of this info in the Al-Nahl. On 12-21-1979, Salam flew to Peshawar and was again met by all the top military and civilian leaders of that area. Lt. general Fazal Haq was also there. Again they traveled via Military aircraft. In the afternoon, they flew to Lahore. Lt.General Sawar Khan hosted Salam and gave an amazing dinner at the Governor’s house, many Ahmadi’s were there also. On 12-23-1979, Salam gave a speech at the Punjab University of Lahore. A private dinner was arranged wherein mostly Ahmadi’s ate with Dr. Salam. On 12-24-1979, Dr. Salam left via military helicopter for Jhang, many Ahmadi’s were with him. He slept in a government rest house. On 12-25-1979, Salam left Jhang for Sargodha, via military helicopter, he then drove to Rabwah to attend the Jalsa, which lasted until 12-27-1979. On 12-28-1979, Salam was driven by Ahmadi youth to Lahore. On 12-29-1979, Salam headed out for Karachi. On 12-30-1979, he visited Sindh University. Lt. General Abassi hosted dinner of Salam that night, he was the governor of Sindh at that time. On 1-2-1980, Salam returned to England. After that, he got a visa for India (which is really hard) and visited his old teacher in India. Then again in 1987, Zia invited Dr. Salam as an official guest of the Government of Pakistan. When Zia died in 1988, Dr. Salam rejoiced.

    He turned his back on Pakistan 3 times
    It should be noted that Salaam had many beefs with his own people.  Shortly after visiting Pakistan, he also visited India, with full governmental permission.  In fact, 99% of Pakistani’s are never given access to India after 1947. But Ahmadi’s are given visit visa’s every single year for the Qadian Jalsa.

    Norman Dombey on Dr. Salam’s Nobel
    Normal Dombey recently posted on the arXiv Abdus Salam: A Reappraisal. PART I. How to Win the Nobel Prize which more or less seems to argue that Salam didn’t deserve his 1979 Nobel. He describes a lot of history I didn’t know, but I’m not completely convinced. Part of the argument seems to be that he stole the idea from Weinberg, and didn’t even know the importance of what he had stolen, but my impression was that no one, not even Weinberg, thought very much of the unified electroweak theory at the time. A quick look at the paper in his collected papers that I take to be the 1968 one that justified the Nobel to him appears to discuss the crucial points: a gauge theory with Higgs mechanism.

    Unfortunately I don’t have more time now to look into this history carefully. If someone expert on this history has comments on the Dombey claims, that would be interesting.

    April 1984-When Ord-XX passed in Pakistan
    He seems to have been living in the UK in this era and never commented on this law.  The Khalifa had moved to London also.

    Dr. Abdul Qadeer, our renowned nuclear scientist said about Salam

    Q: “What do you have to say for the Nobel Award which Dr. Abdus Salam Qadiani has received”?

    A: “That too has been awarded on the basis of motives. Dr. Abdus Salam had been trying to get a Nobel Prize since 1957. At last, on the hundredth birth anniversary of Einstein, the desired Prize was given to him. The fact is that Qadianis have a proper mission operating in Israel since long. Jews wanted to please some like-minded person on the occasion of Einstein�s anniversary and so Dr. Abdus Salam was favored”.  (Weekly Chattan, Lahore, February 6,1986)

    By 1989, Dr. Salam was permanently in a wheel chair.  He had fell many times in Trieste, Italy, and now lived as a totally disabled human.  (see Cosmic Anger, page 260).  Salam carried on at Trieste, Italy, however, his speech became incomprehensible.

    In the last 3 years of his life, he was mute, he was unable to speak, he was bed-ridden and unable to communicate with anyone.  He died of a rare brain disease.

    Salam died in Oxford, Uk in 1996 and his body was transferred to Rabwah
    Nasir Iqbal tells us:

    “””Nasir told this author that one night Salam fell down in his Trieste residence where he resided all alone. He was hurt and bled and lay on the floor all night as he could not get up. He also was unable to call anyone or raise any kind of alarm. Pierre Agbedjro, who used to drive his official car, went inside his residence around 7.00 AM the next morning and saw him lying where he had fallen.”” (see http://www.mujahidkamran.com/articles.php?id=44).

    Apparently his Pakistani wife never wanted to live in Trieste as she felt lonely there.
    Salam suffered from PSP – para supranuclear palsy.  Salam seems to have moved back to London while he was dying and eventually died in the house of Dr. Napier, and he lived his final days there.  After Salam died, his body was transported to Rabwah for burial.  Dr. Napier and her son were also in attendance.  Their son was 22 years old.  We are not sure where his daughter was.  Aziza, the eldest daughter of Abdus Salam and probably all of her sisters and brothers were there.

    Umar Salam and his mother visited GCU on January 22, 2003 on an invitation from the university. He says a ceremony was held at the Salam Hall, also named after the Nobel Prize winner. He remembers different speakers appreciated the services of the scientist on the occasion.





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    Additional questions for Keekee



    60. He hated me since 1992 and my other brother.
    Unchanged: 61. Keekee quotes 89:15-16. However, he doesn’t quote MGA. What money did MGA ever give? When was this revealed? Keekee is aggressively accusing ex-Ahmadi’s of refusing to pay chanda. What about the man who steals from his family? This ayat has nothing to do with Chanda. Keekee robbed both of his brothers. This doesnt just apply to the orphan. When my dad died, he wants all of that too. Refinancing? Bankruptcies? Is this how? He says Pakistani’s behave like this normally…however, Keekee tries to blame Pakistani’s and not Ahmadi’s. That punishment is not written in the quran..the quran says, when the day of judgement will approach.
    Unchanged: 62. keekee then fumbles and can’t answer as to why Bashishit Maqbara exists in the first place.
    Unchanged: 63. He goes back to his debate tactics. He can’t be honest, that’s the issue.
    Unchanged: 64. He doesn’t like when we give examples. When we give parallels.
    Unchanged: 65. Keekee hated me since I was 11-12.
    Unchanged: 66. Jamaat Ahmadiyya does force people to pay chanda. They embarass people, and keep asking and keep asking.
    Unchanged: 67. They hated me, since I didn’t pay.
    Added: 68. excessive begging for chanda.
    Added: 69. He doesnt even want to hear us…he called it a lecture.  Hilarious!!!
    Added: 70. In America…we dont burn down the houses of those who dont pray…in fact, we dont even ask. Keekee didn’t read the whole hadith. He is being arrogant again.
    Added: 71. What masjid did MGA go to for daily prayers from 1840–1876?
    Added: 72. Keekee says its his program, he can go whatever he wants.
    Added: 73. Abu Bakr only gave during a maj

    74. Keekee says he doesnt care where the Ahmadiyya INC uses his money.

    75. MGA refused to show accounts.

    76. He says that Zia and Bhutto tried to figure out where Ahmadiyya chanda was coming from or something like that. Thats a lie.

    77.  Ahmadi’s only clean streets to get governmental favor. Not from the bottom of their hearts, like the Catholic Church too.

    78. Jamaat Ahmadiyya doesnt audit the money after it leaves the UK and goes to 3rd world countries. Show us.

    79. But my uncle owned a liqour store…many Ahmadi’s did. MGA even accepted money prostitiuyes. And Khurram pays lots of interest in america…not just a few things, he lives on a credit card.

    80. Shafiq was a bartender in SF. He never went to Juma. Most Ahmadi’s dont go to Juma.

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    Questions for Ak Shaikh, via Keekee


    Keekee is running wild. Here are some questions.

    1. He doesn’t understand why Akber c asked why Keekee removed those videos? Its about Keekee’s tajweed, its not good. Its about Keekee’s arrogance and rudeness. MGA didn’t know arabic and was challenged by Pir Mehr Ali Shah. MGA didn’t show up to Lahore. MGA couldnt say the letters Duad, Ain, Ghain, Qaaf and many others. MGA was not fluent in arabic. MGA didnt learn 40,000 roots in one night. The Lahori-Ahmadi’s dont believe this. My experiences at Rabwah.

    2. He says he won a court case in 2020 vs. his brother. That’s a lie. He didn’t win anything. The restraining order was not approved. But what about in 2018? In 2018, keekee did the same, I saw him in public, I tried to say salaam..he screamed police and took me to court and his restraining order wasn’t approved. Did I celebrate? The problem is that Ahmadiyya teaches over competitive behaviors and Ahmadi’s get hurt as a result of this. See the case of Amjad Khan and his teeth.

    3. he says he only removed the videos because it hurt me. Not true…I removed my videos about his wife and asked him to remove his videos about me through a cousin. Keekee was also supposed to stop saying my name…which he has reneged on. he is just too competitive and won’t admit to it.

    4. Khurram’s tajweed is below average, severely. He was the local president for 9 years via a fraudulent election. What is his position now? Any national positions? regional?

    5. Does Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad know about Razi and Keekee and their online behaviors? Have they approved of them?

    6. Ahmadi’s are all atheist. Ahmadi’s disrespect Muhammad (saw) all the time. What about them?

    7. He says that every person on zaitoon fm is an atheist. Is this takfir? But why do Ahmadi’s cry persecution then? Why do Ahmadi’s do open takfir in america/Canada/Africa/the UK, Germany and India but cry about not being lawful Muslims in Pakistan?

    8. Ahmadi’s crank calling? My experiences in Rabwah. Porn at the internet cafe’s. Ahmadi’s crank call and harrass people. even the sons of Noorudin were harrassed.

    9.  He’s mad that we laugh at Ahmadi’s and their behaviors. Even Fauzia Faizi was ill treated.

    10.  Ahmadiyya causes people to hate Islam. Easily and quickly.

    11. then he accuses ex-ahmadis of crank calling? He is happy that he told on his brothers for questioning and threatening a local president. He is happy to have beat us. He told on us. We didnt quit because of crank calling. We quit because of the prophethood of MGA. Khurram wanted the family business and his wife. the jamaat doesnt punish crank callers, Khadim Shah and Khurram try to kill their family for threatening Jamaat Presidents. Love for all, hatred for none? It wasnt me…calling. Khurram snitched. How did Khurram kiss up to his children after that? didnt all of those children marry non-Ahmadi’s? Are they fake ahmadi’s now? he bought them shoes, food and totally kissed up. Keekee is a kiss up.

    12. keekee thinks that khatam in 2:7 is different than in 33:40. He wont answer. He also wont answer as to why MGA claimed to be the second coming of Muhammad (saw)(nauzobillah) via 108:1 and 62:3. he wont answer. He wont answer whether MGA claimed to be superior to Yusuf (as) and Esa (as) and many others.

    13. He keeps asking akber C to teach him Quran.

    14.  He admits to corruption at Rabwah and Qadian.

    15. Chanda aik keera hai humaary thumag mayne—kee kee says. What is Zakat vs. Sadaqa? Why doesn’t keekee know?

    16. Momin asked about Chanda’s. This was my issue. I was forced to work 7 days a week. Keekee didnt care, as long as he controlled the money.

    17. He is rude again…”can I speak?”. He says its his program, and he can behave as he wishes. Jootee say juwab karna? May vee kerra?

    18. he tells momin to go and give a lecture. hahahah. He doesnt want to hear us.

    19. they accuse us of disrespecting Muhammad (saw).

    20.  Excessive chanda. Why? My house leaked water when I was growing up. we were poor. the mullahs would come and steal money from us. Keekee didnt care, in 2003, he made a deal with my father and father did tabligh and abandoned his responsbilities. Keekee then lvoed to give loans…he wanted prestige and respect. My teeth were messed up as a kid, i got no help..I got married, I had to pay the bill.

    21. Why did Muhammad (Saw) collect money. The wars. Not a non-profit corporation. Zakat is not monthly. Sadaqa is the category of Ahmadiyya chanda. Muhammad (Saw) needed money during war time. During peace time, the requirements are much less.

    22. Muslims gave excessive amounts of money during war. In fact, during Ww-2, Nizam e nau was published and the Khalifa was scared. During war, rules can change. Marrying more than one wife is only during dire circumstances like war and other scenarios.

    23. He says poor people in Ahmadiyya give more. This is my life story. Keekee is in mounds of debt, his business is bankrupt, he has refinances his home 2-3 times. Islam teaches to take care of your family first, even after death. Giving money to non-profit global corporations doesnt exist. Islam teaches us to feed our neighbors after our family. In the USA, we pay taxes, in Pakistan, Zia instituted Zakat. A Muslim has a responsibilty to his own city first where he/she may live then the world.

    24. He says only Ahmadi’s are sacrficing their lives and money. this is where the Mirza family is guilty of human trafficking, they are just as bad as the Catholic Church.

    25. If a man doesnt pay his employees (his children), he needs to pay them. Keekee’s dad owes one of his sons $250,000 dollars. When will that be paid? at his death? How will the jamaat get that money?

    26. Why werent the victims of 2010 attack buried in Bahishti Maqbara? Werent they deserving of it.

    27. Wasiyyat is even spent on investments. See the Panama Papers.

    28. Ahmadiyya is a business. A global non-profit corporation.

    29. Keekee illegally went for Hajj. He refinanced a fake-Ahmadi’s house and helped them start businesses.

    30. He says that anyone can not pay chanda. But they can make it up later.

    31. he says he’s not a Jamaat official. He was president for 9 years.

    32. To get asylum, an Ahmadi has to pay chanda for 3-4 years in London, Canada, Germany.

    33. Shias have it worse in Pakistan as do Christians, Hindus and Sikhs.

    34. he says Shias are also against Ahmadis in Pakistan.

    35. Ahmadiyya persecution? But in 1987, https://ahmadiyyafactcheckblog.com/2020/01/24/even-in-1987-there-were-328-ahmadi-officers-in-the-pakistani-military/

    36. But I couldnt confess that i wasn’t an ahmadi to them…they would have killed me. They would have fired me. And they did. they forced my wife to hate me.

    37. Keekee gave Ahmadi’s so many opportunities. Younus Mirza, Sohaib Yunus, Umair Yunus, Waqar Bajwa, Chris Komari, Ahmadi’s could steal from him, and not even show up to work…Keekee didnt care.

    38. Ahmadis got better jobs than the average Pakistani from 1947 to at least 2005. Sohaib Yunus almost killed himself. Most Ahmadis are unqualified. My dad got a job at Wabda. My dad hired Karl. My dad always tried to get employees to convert.

    39. Ahmadi’s are the most qualified people in Pakistan? Yunus Mirza? Umair and Sohaib?

    40. Mirza Muzzafar Ahmad. So many Ahmadi officers in 1947?  Then keekee admits that there is a preference issue. However, in America, its illegal.

    41. What about the Shezan company? Zafrullah Khan getting jobs? Muzaffar Ahmad job at the World bank>?

    42. Not everyone can drive a tow truck. Its hard work. He is trying to justify his hiring of Ahmadi’s. He helped Yunus Mirza start his own business.  he wouldnt help me at all.

    43. There are barely 40,000 Ahmadi’s in Pakistan and shrinking fast. In India it is much less. Dr. Abdus Salam would call the professors of Ahmadi students and beg them for special treatment. Khurram let his brother in law borrow $3500 in 2004, he gave me the money. He does this to earn sway and buy friends.

    44. He claims that Ahmadi’s dont get jobs because they are Ahmadi’s. but there arent any jobs in Rabwah. Only jamaati jobs.

    45. In America, if an ahmadi is working in an ahmadi company and he doesnt go to Juma, how will they treat him? IN America…keekee paid Ahmadis cash under the table, and avoided sales taxes.

    46. No one who is an ahmadi and who isnt. Do people know that Khurram’s cousins are Ahmadi? In the I-10?

    47. But in 2003-2006, my dad went to his village and everyone knew he was an ahmadi. he was never touched.

    48. He says that Ahmadis are forced to read prayers at home. that s a lie. I went to the Ahmadiyya place of worship in 2004 in Lala Musa, in the heart of the city. Nothing happened. Belize is much more dangerous than Pakistan.

    49. he claims that they are afraid in Pakistan…however, in America/Canada/the Uk and outside, Ahmadis are bold and arrogant and do takfir. they call us murtadeen, they call us atheist and etc.

    50. He says again..only Ahmadis are sacrficing their lives and property. NO one else. That’s bold and arrogant.

    51. When did Wasiyyat become a monthly payment? Was it 2005?

    52.  Did keekee do Wasiyyat? Is he a munafiq? Did Noorudin do wasiyyat?

    53. Why did MGA say that paying doesnt get someone into Ahmadi heaven? why the double speak? Didnt he do this with Prophethood and the his claim of being the messiah?

    54. If a person doesnt pay chanda…they doubt that he even prays. This is how they felt about me.

    55. Qurbani? New world order? The Mirza famiyl wanted to contrl the land of Ahmadi’s. Like they did in Rabwah and Qadian. This is how they control peopple. In fact, in Qadian, the majority of Ahmadis live in poverty.

    56. Sadaqa doesnt get anyone into heaven. When someone dies, their debts must be paid first in Islam. My dad owes me 250k. But the Ahmadiyya mvoemetn will force us to sell his house.

    57. Keekee doesn’t understand that Zakat is yearly…not monthly. He doesnt understand…poor people are exempt from Zakat and Sadaqa. Sadaqa is only allowed via smiling. However, chanda is mandatory no matter what. Even from welfare money.

    58. Abu Bakr brought half his wealth during war. Not during peace and for a non-profit global corporation.

    59. But Ahmadis are not Mutaqeen. Ahmadis are anti-islam murtadeen, confirmed by the entire worlds ulema, even Professor johnathan Brown.


    60. He hated me since 1992 and my other brother.
    Unchanged: 61. Keekee quotes 89:15-16. However, he doesn’t quote MGA. What money did MGA ever give? When was this revealed? Keekee is aggressively accusing ex-Ahmadi’s of refusing to pay chanda. What about the man who steals from his family? This ayat has nothing to do with Chanda. Keekee robbed both of his brothers. This doesnt just apply to the orphan. When my dad died, he wants all of that too. Refinancing? Bankruptcies? Is this how? He says Pakistani’s behave like this normally…however, Keekee tries to blame Pakistani’s and not Ahmadi’s. That punishment is not written in the quran..the quran says, when the day of judgement will approach.
    Unchanged: 62. keekee then fumbles and can’t answer as to why Bashishit Maqbara exists in the first place.
    Unchanged: 63. He goes back to his debate tactics. He can’t be honest, that’s the issue.
    Unchanged: 64. He doesn’t like when we give examples. When we give parallels.
    Unchanged: 65. Keekee hated me since I was 11-12.
    Unchanged: 66. Jamaat Ahmadiyya does force people to pay chanda. They embarass people, and keep asking and keep asking.
    Unchanged: 67. They hated me, since I didn’t pay.
    Added: 68. excessive begging for chanda.
    Added: 69. He doesnt even want to hear us…he called it a lecture.  Hilarious!!!
    Added: 70. In America…we dont burn down the houses of those who dont pray…in fact, we dont even ask. Keekee didn’t read the whole hadith. He is being arrogant again.
    Added: 71. What masjid did MGA go to for daily prayers from 1840–1876?
    Added: 72. Keekee says its his program, he can go whatever he wants.
    Added: 73. Abu Bakr only gave during a maj

    74. Keekee says he doesnt care where the Ahmadiyya INC uses his money.

    75. MGA refused to show accounts.


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    The Mirza family wanted Chanda even for dead people!!!


    In 1982, a few months after Mirza Tahir Ahmad became Khalifa, he begged Ahmadi’s to pay Chanda under the names of their deceased family members (see Introduction to Financial Sacrifice”, pages 112-113).
    The quote

    “How can one be considered dead whose Chanda continues to be paid? We have to reorganise Daftar 1. I want this Daftar to continue till the Last Day. The names of those who have once made exemplary sacrifices for the faith should never be forgotten. Their descendants should continue to pay Chanda on their behalf, and never should we say that even one of them is dead. They are alive in the sight of God and are also living in the form of their sacrifices. We should
    continue to witness the signs of their life in this world as well.”

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    In 2005, after 100 years of Wasiyyat, only 38,000 Ahmadi’s worldwide had signed up, that’s less than 1%


    The first 4-Khalifa’s of the Ahmadiyya Movement never really pushed Wasiyyat upon Ahmadi’s. The 2nd Khalifa did give speech at the 1942 Jalsa Salana wherein he was scared of a Japanese invasion and was planning for it. His speech was converted into a purposely mistranslated book, “Nizam e Nau”. Furthermore, Ahmadiyya sources were claiming 200 million Ahmadis in this era. The Khalifa reported that only 38,000 Ahmadi’s in total had signed up for this program. 38,000/200,000,000= that’s not even one percent. MGA had written that anyone who doesn’t sign up for Wasiyyat was a hypocrite (munafiq)(see page 41, online english edition of 2005). Thus, per MGA the majority of Ahmadi’s are hypocritical people.

    It was the 5th Khalifa who began to force #ahmadis to join the Wasiyya program. He even had a new english edition of “The Will” (Wasiyyat) 2005 published so that #ahmadis in the west could sign up.

    By 2019, in the USA, Mirza Maghfoor Ahmad was complaining that not even 50% of Jamaat-USA had signed up Wasiyyat, it was at 29% and dropping fast.


    He said all of this during his concluding address at the World wide UK Jalsa of 2004. He said:

    “…In 2005, Insha’allah it will be a hundred years since this institution (Wasiyyat) was established. The Promised Messiahas established it in 1905…and today, after 99 years, only 38,000 Ahmadis have signed Wasiyyat. Next year, a hundred years will be completed
    since the institution of Wasiyyat was established, so as I said earlier, I wish to exhort the Jama‘at to come forward and join this heavenly institution in order to purify their own lives and the lives of their progeny. At least…15,000 new Wasaya should be signed in the following one year.”

    Hudur went on to say:

    “It is my desire that by 2008, when a hundred years will be completed since the establishment of Khilafat-eAhmadiyya, at least 50% of all Ahmadi earning hands (i.e., the contributors of Chanda) in every country and every Jama‘at should have become part of this great scheme (Wasiyyat) and set new standards in making sacrifices. This will be a small token of gratitude from the Jama‘at to Allah Almighty at the completion of hundred years since Khilafat was established….The people who join this institution should, according to the Promised Messiahas be such, who desire a virtuous end and are regular in their worship. For this purpose, the best time is when one is young….Therefore, Khuddamul Ahmadiyya, Saf-e-dum of Ansarullah and
    Lajna Ima’illah should try their best to take part in this Divine scheme, because when one reaches the age of seventy and above, and is lingering on the edge of the grave, he has only leftovers to offer. So I hope that young men and ladies will take part in it with full zeal, and I especially wish to address the ladies, that they should try to bring their children and husbands to this revolutionary scheme….”

    Concluding Speech at Jalsa Salana UK 2004
    See, “Introduction to Financial Sacrifice”
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    In 1925, the Khalifa himself volunteered to teach at the new Girls school in Qadian


    In 1925, the Ahmadiyya Khalifa (who was a total predator) volunteered to teach young Ahmadi girls at the new Madrasatul Khawateen, a school for women, to spread religious education among women. Apart from Hadhrat Maulawi Sher Ali Sahib(ra), Hadhrat Syed Waliullah Shah Sahib(ra), Hadhrat Sufi Ghulam Muhammad Sahib(ra) and other scholars, including Hadhrat Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad(ra), Khalaifatul Masih II, himself used to teach there. Hadhrat Maulawi Sher Ali Sahib(ra) was the administrator of the school. Its graduates included teachers and workers for women’s central offices and educational institutes.

    We suspect foul play with the girls at this school. More to come in the future.

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    The Establishment of Lajna Ima’illah and the Sacrifices of Early Ahmadi Muslim Women

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    Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed that 66:12 of the Quran was revealed about himself via when he got pregnant in 1884


    Most of the writings of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad are sick and twisted. In this specific case, he claims that 66:12 of the Quran was revealed about himself. This was how and why MGA claimed to have gotten pregnant by Allah in the 1884 era. MGA said many disrespectful things about Maryam (ra), see them here. This specific quotation (66:12) was published in BA-5, which was published after MGA died and thus heavily edited by Noorudin. MGA was claiming that the same way that Allah breathed the spirit of Esa (as) into Maryam (ra), MGA had the same thing happen to him. This is how MGA explains how he became Esa (as)(nauzobillah). It should be noted that in the official 5-volume commentary on the quran (1988 edition) by the Qadiani-Ahmadi’s doesn’t connect MGA to this verse, nor did Muhammad Ali in 1917 via his famous commentary. MGA also gives the same argument in Nuzul ul Masih (1909), see Tadhkirah.

    MGA also disrespected Nuh (as), Yusuf (as), Esa (as) and Muhammad (Saw) countless times. He also disrespected Abu Hurraira, Imam Hussain and his mother Fatima (ra), and many others.
    66:12 of the Quran

    “””And [the example of] Mary, the daughter of ‘Imran, who guarded her chastity, so We blew into [her garment] through Our angel, and she believed in the words of her Lord and His scriptures and was of the devoutly obedient.””


    The quote
    Barahin-i-Ahmadiyya, volume-5, online english edition see pages 135-137

    “”But the question is: Why do the Hadith refer to the one who will become ‘Isa from this Ummah as being Ibn Maryam [the Son of Mary], whereas he is not the son of Maryam? Know, therefore, that this confusion that afflicts the minds of the ignorant has been cleared in Surah Tahrim of the Holy Quran in which certain individuals of this Ummah have been likened to Maryam, and the spirit of ‘Isa is said to have been breathed into them. This clearly shows that some individual from this Ummah would first attain the status of Maryam and then the spirit would be breathed into this ‘Maryam’, who will then be elevated and called ‘Ibn Maryam’.

    Someone may question, ‘If this is true, then there should have been some reference to this in your revelations too.’ Let me say in reply that this point was not only hinted at, but also fully expounded upon in the previous parts of Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya twenty-five years ago, wherein—by way of a subtle simile—I have been described as Ibn Maryam. You may take the book in your hands and find that, in the beginning, God named me ‘Maryam’ and said:

    یا مریم اسكن انت وزوجك الجنۃ

    Meaning: ‘Enter Paradise O Maryam, you and your companion.’

    Then, many pages later, which were written quite some time later, God Almighty said:

    یا مریم نفختُ فیك من لدنی روح الصدق

    Meaning: ‘O Maryam, I have breathed into you the spirit of truth.’ This breathing was a spiritual conception—so to speak—for the words used here are the same as the Holy Quran uses with regard to Maryam the Truthful when the spirit was breathed into her, which meant that she became pregnant and the pregnancy resulted in the birth of ‘Isa. In the same way, He said to me that the spirit had been breathed into me, and so this was a spiritual conception. Then later in the same book, I was addressed as ‘Isa, for after the breathing of the divine spirit, the state of Maryam was ready to be transformed into ‘Isa, and this state is metaphorically described as conception. And, finally, from this Maryam-like state, emerged ‘Isa. It was to signify this that I was named ‘Isa towards the end of the book, while at the beginning I had been called ‘Maryam’.

    Now reflect with decency, fairness, and piety on this verse of Surah Tahrim in which certain persons of this Ummah have been likened to Maryam, and which then speaks of the breathing of the spirit into Maryam—signifying the conception that would result in the birth of ‘Isa. And then read all these portions from the previous parts of Barahin-e-Ahmadiyya and have fear of God and look how He first named me ‘Maryam’ and then spoke of the spirit being breathed into me, and at the end of the book declared me ‘Isa, born of this Maryam’s spiritual conception.”””

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    Women were added into Chanda Aam in 1937 (6.25% of their pocket money)


    In Ahmadiyya history, uptil 1937, women rarely paid any type of chanda’s or wasiyyat to the Mirza family. There is one story, wherein Ahmadiyya sources claim that women gave their jewelry in the early 1920’s for the building of the now famous Fazl Mosque, however, this is unconfirmed, it comes from ahmadi-only sources which is immediately dubious. It was in-fact 1937, when the Khalifa decided to formally force women to pay 6.25% of their pocket money, if they ever had any, this is so sick. Remember, up to this point, women didn’t even go the mosque’s in the Muslim world, in Qadian it was the same. 99% of women were in-fact exempt from prayers and other islamic duties, simply because women were busy with the children and caring for them. There wasn’t even a women’s area at Masjid Mubarak or Masjid Aqsa until after 1947. Thus, going to an Ahmadiyya mosque in British-India was a man’s duty in Islam, not a woman’s. Nevertheless, in the below, we have posted the reference wherein the Khalifa added women into the Chanda Aam scheme at 6.25% of their pocket money, since no Ahmadi woman ever had a job before 1937.

    The reference
    See “An Introduction to Financial Sacrifice” PUBLISHED BY
    TAHRIK-E-JADID ANJUMAN AHMADIYYA PAKISTAN, online english edition of 20

    Report Majlis-e-Mushawarat. 1937.

    On the occasion of Mushawrat 1937, Hadrat Khalifatul Masih II said:

    “As from now, Chanda will be received at the full rate not only from men but also from women who have regular incomes, whether it is in the form of pocket money they receive from their husbands or from some other source. Other women will not be bound to pay at the specified rate, but should make sacrifices according to their circumstances and their ability”.

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    Script for Muzzy Buzz


    Here is a list of questions I would like to ask an Ahmadi.
    The questions
    1. What is your official position in the Ahmadiyya Movement? Do you hold any positions? Have you ever?

    2. Do Ahmadis need approval to discuss with Sunni’s via livestream? Do you have permission? Damon Stengel’s story?

    2.a.  Are Muslims Mushriks for believing that Esa (as) hasn’t died yet via 4:159 and 20+ hadith?

    3. What does Khatam mean in 2:7 vs. 33:40. Can he quote MGA?

    4. Is MGA the second coming of Muhammad (Saw)(nauzobillah)? Via 62:3? Have you read what the scholars like Ibn Kathir and Suyuti wrote about 62:3? What does ‘Lo na Lo hu’ mean in arabic? Doesn’t it mean “reach it” instead of “bring it back”?

    5. Is mga mentioned in 108:1? Surah Kausar?

    6. Is 61:6 about mga?

    7. Chapter 2:4 of the Quran, does that predict MGA’s revelations? Can anyone become a prophet via achievement? Via 1:6, 4:69.

    8. Does 7:35 of the Quran allow for more prophets after MGA?

    9. What did MGA mean when he called himself Khatam ul Khulafa? Was MGA the final prophet? Only MGA was called a prophet?

    10. Why did MGA claim to be superior to Yusuf (as) and Esa (as)?

    11. Why did MGA claim that if the signs shown to him were given to Nuh (as) and his people they would have been saved from drowing?

    12. Why do Ahmadis seek to humiliate their opponents?

    13. How was mga’s arabic? Did he learn in one night?

    14. Why didn’t mga give Friday sermons?

    15. Did mga attend juma in his youth?

    16. Is the current khalifa a scholar of Islam?

    17. Was mga a scholar of Islam?

    18. In ba1-2, mga said the words of Allah will never end. Mga didn’t deny prophethood in this era. Why was mga called a kafir? This is before his claim of messiah

    19. Did any prophet deny his prophethood for 20 years? Was any human an ummati nabi like MGA and non-independent in the quran? Out of 124,000 prophets? Out of 300+ Rasul’s?

    20. Were there 200 million Ahmadi’s in 2004? 40 million from India in 2001? Are Ahmadiyya memberships records and chanda records accurately kept?

    21. Was Yuz Asaf the son of a local Indian king? Have you read Ayn ul Hayat?

    22. Do Ahmadi’s consider Sunni-Muslims as Muslims? Or non-Ahmadi Muslims? Should there be a religious test in America?

    23. Can a Muslim deny any of the prophets of Allah and remain a Muslim?

    24. Have you read Mirza bashir Ahmad’s works from 1915–1919? Why did he write that Ahmadis add MGA into the Kalima and all prophets? Via implication. Why did he write that Muslims are Kafirs?

    25. Did the Khalifa order Ahmadis to stop doing outward Takfir in 1923?

    26. Do All false prophets get killed? Elijah Muhammad? Why does the Quran say that Prophets and Messengers were killed? 69:23? Wasn’t 69:23 only about Muhammad?

    27. Why didn’t MGA take opium for his ailments (diabetes)? he didn’t want people to think that the first messiah was a drunk and the second a druggy?

    28. Did MGA take money from prostitutes for the propagation of Ahmadiyya?

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    Ibn Taymiyyah on the differences between a Nabi (Prophet) and Rasul (Messengers)


    Yasir Qadhi did an entire video on this and explained this in full detail herein. Scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah explain this issue well. Prophets (anbiyaa) brought revelation to nations or peoples that were receptive (e.g., Adam, Idris, Ismaeel, Ishaaq, Dawud, Suleiman or Yahya). Messengers (rusul) were sent to hostile nations that had abandoned revelation (e.g., Nuh, Hud, Saleh, Lut, Yunus, Musa, Yusuf, Isa and Muhammad). Prophets are not messengers, but messengers can be prophets, where they develop followers who are receptive to their message.

    In a Nutshell:
    Prophets (anbiya) brought revelation to nations or peoples that were receptive (e.g., Adam, Ismaeel, Ishaaq, Suleiman or Yahya). Messengers (rusul) were sent to hostile nations that had abandoned revelation (e.g., Nuh, Hud, Saleh, Lut, Ibrahim, Musa, Isa, Yusuf and Muhammad). Prophets are not messengers, but messengers can be prophets, where they gain followers who are receptive to their message.

    There is wide-spread confusion between the term prophet and messenger (nabi vs rasool), and it is unsurprising the reason is there are significant differences amongst the scholars on this.

    Some scholars claimed the Muhammad (saw) was made a prophet when the first sura was revealed. He only became a messenger when the first several verses of sura Mudatthir were revealed. Others argued he was a messenger from the outset.


    The following evidences are usually cited:


    What is the difference between a prophet and a messenger (nabi and rasool)?


    وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ مِنَ الْكِتَابِ وَمُهَيْمِنًا عَلَيْهِ فَاحْكُم بَيْنَهُم بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ وَلَا تَتَّبِعْ أَهْوَاءَهُمْ عَمَّا جَاءَكَ مِنَ الْحَقِّ لِكُلٍّ جَعَلْنَا مِنكُمْ شِرْعَةً وَمِنْهَاجًا وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّهُ لَجَعَلَكُمْ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً وَلَٰكِن لِّيَبْلُوَكُمْ فِي مَا آتَاكُمْ فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِ إِلَى اللَّهِ مَرْجِعُكُمْ جَمِيعًا فَيُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا كُنتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ

    “For each Messenger I sent a Sharia and way of life” (Quran 5:48)

    ثُمَّ اَرۡسَلۡنَا رُسُلَنَا تَتۡـرَا​ ؕ كُلَّ مَا جَآءَ اُمَّةً رَّسُوۡلُهَا كَذَّبُوۡهُ​ فَاَتۡبَـعۡنَا بَعۡـضَهُمۡ بَعۡـضًا وَّجَعَلۡنٰهُمۡ اَحَادِيۡثَ​ ۚ فَبُـعۡدًا لِّـقَوۡمٍ لَّا يُؤۡمِنُوۡنَ
    Then We sent Our messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation its messenger, they denied him, so We made them follow one another [to destruction], and We made them narrations. So away with a people who do not believe. (Qur’an 23:44)

    اِنَّاۤ اَنۡزَلۡنَا التَّوۡرٰٮةَ فِيۡهَا هُدًى وَّنُوۡرٌ​ ۚ يَحۡكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّوۡنَ الَّذِيۡنَ اَسۡلَمُوۡا لِلَّذِيۡنَ هَادُوۡا وَ الرَّبَّانِيُّوۡنَ وَالۡاَحۡبَارُ بِمَا اسۡتُحۡفِظُوۡا مِنۡ كِتٰبِ اللّٰهِ وَكَانُوۡا عَلَيۡهِ شُهَدَآءَ​​ۚ
    Indeed, We revealed the Torah, containing guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah, made judgments for Jews. So too did the rabbis and scholars judge according to Allah’s Book, with which they were entrusted and of which they were made keepers. (Qur’an 5:44)

    وَلَـقَدۡ اَرۡسَلۡنَا مِنۡ قَبۡلِكَ فِىۡ شِيَعِ الۡاَوَّلِيۡنَ‏ وَمَا يَاۡتِيۡهِمۡ مِّنۡ رَّسُوۡلٍ اِلَّا كَانُوۡا بِهٖ يَسۡتَهۡزِءُوۡنَ‏
    (O Muhammad), certainly We did send Messengers before you among the nations which have gone by and whenever a Messenger came to them, they never failed to mock him. (Qur’an 15:10)

    The Prophet (saw) distinguished between both groups:

    عَنْ أَبِي ذَرٍ قَالَ : قُلْتُ : يَا رَسُولَ اللهِ، كَمْ الأْنِبَياء ؟ قال :مِائَةُ أَلْفٍ وَأَرْبَعَةٌ وَعِشْرُونَ أَلْفًا ” قُلْتُ: يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ: كَمِ الرُّسُلُ مِنْهُمْ؟ قَالَ: ” ثَلَاثُمِائَةٍ وَثَلَاثَةَ عَشَرَ جَمٌّ غَفِيرٌ
    The Messenger (saws) was asked by Abu Dharr about the number of Anbiya and Rusul. He (saws) replied there were 124,000 Prophets among whom 315 were Messengers. (Musnad Ahmad, Tabarani and ibn Hibban)

    In the other part of this hadith in another narration the Prophet (saw) said prophet Adam (as) is a nabi:

    أيُّ الأنبياءِ كان أوَّلَ؟ قال: آدمُ، قلتُ: يا رسولَ اللهِ، ونَبيٌّ كان؟ قال: نعمْ، نَبيٌّ مُكلَّمٌ
    “Who was the first nabi? He (the Prophet) sad: Adam.
    I said, O Messenger of Allah: ‘Was he a prophet?’
    He replied, ‘Yes a nabi whom Allah spoke to.'” (al-Mustadrak 2966)

    Some object to these narrations stating the narration is munkar – one of the chains has a weak narrator whilst the other chains omit the part stating “310 were messengers”. But this hadith was narrated on the authority of Abu Dhar, Sadi ibn Ijlan, Jundub ibn Abdullah and Abdullah ibn Sakhr. There are some weak narrations of the hadith, but the meaning was narrated by several chains of narrators and in some authentic narrations as well, which elevates its rank.

    On the other hand, there is a narration arguing Nuh (as) was the first rasool as in the narration of shafa’ah in the Day of Judgement:

    ولكنِ ائتوا نوحًا، فإنه أولُ رسولٍ بعثه اللهُ إلى أهلِ الأرضِ
    “Rather, go to Nuh as he is the first rasool sent to people of the earth.” (Ibn Al-Arabi, Ahkam al-Qur’an, Vol. 4, p. 89)

    So, there is a distinction between both terms. The same distinction was also made by Allah:

    وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ مِن رَّسُولٍ وَلاَ نَبِيٍّ إِلاَّ إِذَا تَمَنَّىٰ أَلْقَى ٱلشَّيْطَانُ فِيۤ أُمْنِيَّتِهِ فَيَنسَخُ ٱللَّهُ مَا يُلْقِي ٱلشَّيْطَانُ ثُمَّ يُحْكِمُ ٱللَّهُ آيَاتِهِ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ

    And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke, Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. (Qur’an 22:52)

    In another hadith when the Prophet (saw) was teaching al-Bara a du’aa before sleeping:

    قَالَ فَرَدَّدْتُهُنَّ لأَسْتَذْكِرَهُنَّ فَقُلْتُ آمَنْتُ بِرَسُولِكَ الَّذِي أَرْسَلْتَ قَالَ ‏”‏ قُلْ آمَنْتُ بِنَبِيِّكَ الَّذِي أَرْسَلْتَ ‏”
    “And as I repeated these words to commit them to memory, I said:” I affirm my faith in your Messenger (rasool) whom you sent.”
    He said: Say:” I affirm my faith in the Prophet (nabi) whom you sent.” (Muslim 6544)

    So, if both terms are the same the Prophet (saw) would have approved his du’a.

    The data

    Ibn Taymiyyah advocates another opinion which seems to be the most persuasive of the four. He considers a linguistic perspective, asking what does the term nabi mean.

    Surah Naba (verse 2) uses the term to refer to news or information suggesting a nabi is one who informs others with the information he possesses. Rasool, however, means to send a delegate, envoy, emissary or ambassador, to a nation with whom one is usually not on good terms.

    From this reasoning, Allah sends messengers to nations who reject him (e.g., Nuh, the first rasool, Lut, Hud, Salih, Yunus, Ibrahim, Musa, Yusuf, Isa and so on upto Muhammad), whilst a prophet is sent to people who already accept him due to their belief in the previous rasool (such as Idris, Yaqub, Ishaaq, Sulayman, Dawud and others).

    The people of Adam (as) and Idris (as) did not worship others with Allah as they were created by Allah in a pure way. Later the Shayateen deceived them and made them worshipping others. (Muslim 6853) So the people of Nuh (as) were the first mushrikeen. As ibn Abbas said in interpreting the verse:

    كَانَ النَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً فَبَعَثَ اللَّهُ النَّبِيِّينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنْذِرِينَ

    “Mankind was one ummah; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners.” (Qur’an 2:213)

    He explained:

    كَانَ بَيْنَآدَمَ وَنُوحٍعَشْرُ قُرُونٍكُلُّهُمْ عَلَىشَرِيعَةٍ مِنَ الْحَقِّ، فَاخْتَلَفُوا، فَبَعَثَ اللهُ النَبِيِينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنْذِرِينَ
    “There were ten centuries between Adam and Nuh. All people followed a shari’ah of truth. They disagreed, so Allah sent nabis, bringers of good tidings and warners.” (Tabari, Jami al-Bayan, Vol. 4, p. 275, )

    The same thing was narrated by Qatadah, Ikrimah and others, but Mujahid made it specific:

    فَكَانَ أَوَّلَ مَنْ بَعَثَ نُوحًا

    “The first who was sent was Nuh.” (Ibn Kathir, Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Adheem, Vol. 1, p. 229)

    As the narration above says Nuh (as) was the first rasool, so he was the first rasool when people deviated too much from the divine trajectory. Yusuf (as) also was sent to people who were disbelievers, so he was called rasool.

    Ibn Taymiyyah argued:

    ٌفَالنَبِيُ هُوَ اّلذِي يُنَبِئُهُ اللهُ، وهُوَ يُنْبِىءُ بِمَا أَنْبَأَ اللهُ بِهِ؛ فَإِنْ أُرْسَِل َمعَ ذَلِكَ إِلَى مَنْ خَالَف أَمْرَ اللّهِ ليُبَلِغَهُ رِسَالَةً مِنَ اللهِ إِلَيهِ؛ فَهُوَ رَسُول

    “The nabi is the one whom Allah informs and he informs people of what Allah has told him. But if he was sent with a message to those that go against Allah’s commands, he is a rasool. But if he follows a shari’ah that came before him and is not sent to anyone to convey Allah’s message to them, then he is a nabi and not a rasool.” (Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Nubuwaat, Vol. 2, p. 714)

    All the evidences support this view with no contradiction. As such it is the strongest position.

    وَلَـقَدۡ اَرۡسَلۡنَا مِنۡ قَبۡلِكَ فِىۡ شِيَعِ الۡاَوَّلِيۡنَ‏ وَمَا يَاۡتِيۡهِمۡ مِّنۡ رَّسُوۡلٍ اِلَّا كَانُوۡا بِهٖ يَسۡتَهۡزِءُوۡنَ‏

    (O Muhammad), certainly We did send Messengers before you among the nations which have gone by and whenever a Messenger came to them, they never failed to mock him. (Qur’an 15:10)

    أَفَكُلَّمَا جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ بِمَا لَا تَهْوَىٰ أَنْفُسُكُمُ اسْتَكْبَرْتُمْ فَفَرِيقًا كَذَّبْتُمْ وَفَرِيقًا تَقْتُلُونَ

    But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed. (Qur’an 2:87)

    فَإِنْ كَذَّبُوكَ فَقَدْ كُذِّبَ رُسُلٌ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ جَاءُوا بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ وَالزُّبُرِ وَالْكِتَابِ الْمُنِيرِ

    Then if they deny you, [O Muhammad] – so were messengers denied before you, who brought clear proofs and written ordinances and the enlightening Scripture. (Qur’an 3:184)

    لَقَدْ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ وَأَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ رُسُلًا ۖ كُلَّمَا جَاءَهُمْ رَسُولٌ بِمَا لَا تَهْوَىٰ أَنْفُسُهُمْ فَرِيقًا كَذَّبُوا وَفَرِيقًا يَقْتُلُونَ

    We had already taken the covenant of the Children of Israel and had sent to them messengers. Whenever there came to them a messenger with what their souls did not desire, a party [of messengers] they denied, and another party they killed. (Qur’an 5:70)

    وَلَقَدْ كَذَّبَ أَصْحَابُ الْحِجْرِ الْمُرْسَلِينَ

    And certainly did the companions of Thamud deny the messengers. (Qur’an 15:80)

    ذَٰلِكَ جَزَاؤُهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ بِمَا كَفَرُوا وَاتَّخَذُوا آيَاتِي وَرُسُلِي هُزُوًا

    That is their recompense – Hell – for what they denied and [because] they took My signs and My messengers in ridicule. (Qur’an 18:106)

    وَلَقَدِ اسْتُهْزِئَ بِرُسُلٍ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ فَأَمْلَيْتُ لِلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا ثُمَّ أَخَذْتُهُمْ ۖ فَكَيْفَ كَانَ عِقَابِ

    And already were [other] messengers ridiculed before you, and I extended the time of those who disbelieved; then I seized them, and how [terrible] was My penalty. (Qur’an 13:32)

    Other scholars like Razi argued in a similar vein:

    “A nabi is one who is not given a new book, but rather establishes the book which was revealed to the rasool before him. He does not abrogate the book and the code of law which was in vogue before him. He sees the angel in a dream or the rasool of the time informs him that he has been chosen as a nabi.” (Razi, Mafaatih al-Ghayb Vol. 23, p. 43)


    Alusi, Ruh al-Ma’ani
    Baydawi, Anwar at-Tanzeel
    Ibn Al-Arabi, Ahkam al-Qur’an
    Ibn Kathir, Tafseer al-Qur’an al-Adheem
    Ibn Taymiyyah, al-Nubuwat
    Nasafi, Madarik at-Tanzeel
    Qurtubi, al-Jami li Ahkam al-Qur’an
    Shawkani, Fath al-Qadeer
    Razi, Mafatih al-Ghayb
    Tabari, Jami al-Bayan
    The other 3 opinions


    Juristic Analysis

    The classical scholars held four different opinions on this question.

    1. A prophet is the same as a messenger

    The first set of scholars argued there was no difference. A prophet (nabi) was the same as a messenger (rasool) and the terms are interchangeable.

    This opinion is open to critique because the Qur’an states:

    وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِن قَبْلِكَ مِن رَّسُولٍ وَلاَ نَبِيٍّ إِلاَّ إِذَا تَمَنَّىٰ أَلْقَى ٱلشَّيْطَانُ فِيۤ أُمْنِيَّتِهِ فَيَنسَخُ ٱللَّهُ مَا يُلْقِي ٱلشَّيْطَانُ ثُمَّ يُحْكِمُ ٱللَّهُ آيَاتِهِ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ

    And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke, Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. (Qur’an 22:52)

    If they had been same, then this verse is repeating the same term, breaking its usual eloquence and precision of wording.

    Another argument holds a principle of Arabic grammar states when two similar things are cited together, separated by a waw, then one’s attention is being drawn to the difference between the two (al-mughayarah).

    2. Messenger conveys revelation, whilst a Prophet does not

    This widespread opinion states a prophet is inspired with revelation but is not expected to convey it, whilst a messenger is obliged to convey it to people.

    This opinion is problematic as there is a hadith where the Prophet (saw) says:

    عُرِضَتْ عَلَىَّ الأُمَمُ فَجَعَلَ يَمُرُّ النَّبِيُّ مَعَهُ الرَّجُلُ وَالنَّبِيُّ مَعَهُ الرَّجُلاَنِ، وَالنَّبِيُّ مَعَهُ الرَّهْطُ، وَالنَّبِيُّ لَيْسَ مَعَهُ أَحَدٌ
    I saw all of the prophets (anbiya) on the day of judgement, and there was a prophet (nabi) with a big group, small group & no group etc. (Bukhari 5752)

    This suggests prophets have followers so had conveyed their revelation to others.

    It also does not make sense why someone would be inspired by Allah with a message but not expected to convey this message to others.

    3. Messengers bring a new Sharia

    This opinion argues a messenger is someone who brings a new shariah (code of morals/ethics/laws), abrogating those preceding it, presumably because his qawm had abandoned the previous revelation and were lost. A prophet, however, follows the shariah of the previous messenger presumably because their qawm preserved it and live by it.

    This view was supported by a large number of scholars, see:

    • Nasafi, Madarik at-Tanzeel, Vol. 3, p. 108;
    • Baydawi, Anwar at-Tanzeel, Vol. 4, p. 133;
    • Shawkani, Fath al-Qadeer, Vol. 3, p. 461;
    • Qurtubi, al-Jami li ahkam al-Qur’an, Vol. 7, p. 298;
    • Alusi, Ruh al-Ma’ani, Vol. 7, p. 157.

    However this faces immediate objections; in sura Ghafir, Yusuf (as) is cited as a messenger (rasool) but he brought no sharia. Allah says:

    وَلَقَدْ جَاءَكُمْ يُوسُفُ مِنْ قَبْلُ بِالْبَيِّنَاتِ فَمَا زِلْتُمْ فِي شَكٍّ مِمَّا جَاءَكُمْ بِهِ حَتَّى إِذَا هَلَكَ قُلْتُمْ لَنْ يَبْعَثَ اللَّهُ مِنْ بَعْدِهِ رَسُولًا كَذَلِكَ يُضِلُّ اللَّهُ مَنْ هُوَ مُسْرِفٌ مُرْتَابٌ
    “And Yusuf had already come to you before with clear proofs, but you remained in doubt of that which he brought to you, until when he died, you said, ‘Never will Allah send a messenger (rasool) after him.’ Thus does Allah leave astray he who is a transgressor and sceptic.” (Qur’an 40:34)

    This verse is the clearest and key evidence in differentiating between both terms. Yusuf (as) was one of Bani Isra’il who followed the shari’ah brought by Musa (as). But what differentiated him from the other nabis of Banu Isra’il (such as Dawud, Sulaiman, Ishaq and others) was that he was sent to a completely disbelieving nation.

    Similar Bukhari cites Nuh (as) as the first messenger. Idrees (as) was a prophet coming before Nuh (as).

    There are other subdivisions of this view: others argued the nabi is the one who receives the revelation while sleeping (or not receiving at all), but the rasool is the one who receives a revelation through Jibreel (as).

    As al-Baydawi says:

    قِيلَ: الرَّسُولُ مَنْ جَمَعَ إِلَى الْمُعْجِزَةِ كِتَابًا مُنْزَلًا عَلَيْهِ، وَالنَّبِيُّ غَيْرَالرَّسُولِ، مَنْ لَا كِتَابٍ ، وَقِيلَ: الرَّسُولُ مَنْيَأْتِيهِ الْمَلَكُ بِالْوَحْي، وَالنَّبِيُّ: يُقَالُ لَهُ وَلِمَنْ يُوحَى إِلَيْهِ فِي الْمَنَامِ
    “Some said: ‘The messenger is one who combines the performance of miracles the revelation but the prophet is not as he received no book.
    Others said: ‘The rasool is the one to whom the angel brings the revelation, but the nabi is the one whom it is (in another way) said to him (maybe like a feeling or inspiration) and who receives revelation while sleeping.’ ” (Baydawi, Anwar at-Tanzeel, Vol. 4, p. 133)

    But this is also improbable as prophet Adam – and others – was a nabi and received revelation and spoke to Allah as per the hadith above. Prophet Dawud (as) received a book (al-Zabur) and he was one of the nabis of bani Isra’il who followed the shari’ah of Musa (as).

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